A naive question - pi is using jiti to hotreload extensions, but how does hotreloading work at all with Rust?
michelsedgh 2 hours ago [-]
I haven’t yet tried openclaw but can someone tell me how is this project different than that? Is this basically a different take on the same thing as openclaw? Dont get me wrong im not against it I just was wondering if theyre basically doing the same thing? If that’s the case I actually appreciate both projects, but idk what theyre doing and how theyre different?
fabienpenso 2 hours ago [-]
author here.
It's a different take and heavily inspired at first by OpenClaw, which is a great product and Peter the founder is an amazing human being. I'm adding features than I want, since I do Moltis for my own use but also try to add features than others will enjoy.
I think Rust makes a lot of sense security wise, it does add benefits like being a single binary and very easy to install. I also tried to make it easy to try with a 1-click deploy on the cloud.
I'm not sure this is convincing enough but I think you can only judge by yourself trying it out, and I'd love feedback.
afro88 14 minutes ago [-]
Aside from security and efficiency, is there anything openclaw and do that moltis can't? Like for example, does moltis have the "heartbeat" thing, short and long term memory, can update a soul.md etc?
I'm so keen to try openclaw in a locked down environment but the onboarding docs are a mess and I can see references to the old name in markdowns and stuff like that. Seems like a lot of work just to get up and running.
michelsedgh 54 minutes ago [-]
Thanks for the explanation! I love different takes, so good luck! I will try it later on. As I said i haven’t tried openclaw but just a quick look it seems like your take has all the pain points of openclaw fixed! Thanks Fabien
14 minutes ago [-]
vessenes 2 hours ago [-]
Cool!
One pain point I have with openclaw is compaction. It uses so many tokens that compaction happens often - but I'd say it's not great at keeping the thread. I think this could be a nice little benefit you offer folks if you can get higher quality continuity.
LaurensBER 2 hours ago [-]
Very cool! I love the approach, OpenClaw is really cool but there's two major things holding me back for deploying it from friends a family;
- Cybersecurity (you can't expect a non-technical person to read a skill)
- Token usage (without a flat fee subscription it'll become expensive very fast)
I understand that security is a hard problem to solve but having a single binary + containers should definitely help! I'll definitely keep an eye on this.
zimbatm 47 minutes ago [-]
Isn't the point of OpenClaw that the agent can modify itself?
wortelefant 6 minutes ago [-]
If you run it with a cheaper model or just once in a while, it will write sometjing unexpected into its config json, restart and crash. Happens every few days. I learned to back up the config the hard way
gabmartini 1 hours ago [-]
Hello! I tried to run with podman but it get stuck in the login of my bot :( Would check it out later on the development.
013 2 hours ago [-]
Why can I only see gpt-5.2 and opus-4.5? Is this a limit on Moltis or can my API keys not access the latest models?
fabienpenso 2 hours ago [-]
You should not be limited, which provider do you use?
013 2 hours ago [-]
For the models? Directly from Anthropic and OpenAI. I'm running moltis via the docker container
edit: There is a gpt-5.3 model, but selecting that gives me the error:
Error
The model `gpt-5.3` does not exist or you do not have access to it.
Provider: openai
I don't see a 5.3-codex, and no opus 4.6...
fabienpenso 59 minutes ago [-]
Let me confirm, I just tried on digitalocean and I have a similar issue, the last version I published might have issue. Fixing as of now.
fabienpenso 1 hours ago [-]
oh so those are issues from the provider itself, you get to choose between model the provider advertise for you, meaning:
- you can have models you can not actually use (that gpt-5.3 response)
- you can have model non-listed.
Those are all coming from the provider with your API_KEY.
1 days ago [-]
canadiantim 1 hours ago [-]
Very nice.
Though, I am looking forward to the next generation of AI agents that aren't named after a lobster
fabienpenso 55 minutes ago [-]
There is actually a reason, the Rust logo is a crab named Ferris: https://rustacean.net
3 hours ago [-]
touristtam 2 hours ago [-]
moltis.org is down fwiw
fabienpenso 2 hours ago [-]
author here, it works for a few friends. Would love to fix it for you, but you can also just use the github project: https://github.com/moltis-org/moltis
23 hours ago [-]
Rendered at 22:36:00 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) with Vercel.
It's a different take and heavily inspired at first by OpenClaw, which is a great product and Peter the founder is an amazing human being. I'm adding features than I want, since I do Moltis for my own use but also try to add features than others will enjoy.
I think Rust makes a lot of sense security wise, it does add benefits like being a single binary and very easy to install. I also tried to make it easy to try with a 1-click deploy on the cloud.
I'm not sure this is convincing enough but I think you can only judge by yourself trying it out, and I'd love feedback.
I'm so keen to try openclaw in a locked down environment but the onboarding docs are a mess and I can see references to the old name in markdowns and stuff like that. Seems like a lot of work just to get up and running.
One pain point I have with openclaw is compaction. It uses so many tokens that compaction happens often - but I'd say it's not great at keeping the thread. I think this could be a nice little benefit you offer folks if you can get higher quality continuity.
- Cybersecurity (you can't expect a non-technical person to read a skill)
- Token usage (without a flat fee subscription it'll become expensive very fast)
I understand that security is a hard problem to solve but having a single binary + containers should definitely help! I'll definitely keep an eye on this.
edit: There is a gpt-5.3 model, but selecting that gives me the error:
Error The model `gpt-5.3` does not exist or you do not have access to it. Provider: openai
I don't see a 5.3-codex, and no opus 4.6...
- you can have models you can not actually use (that gpt-5.3 response) - you can have model non-listed.
Those are all coming from the provider with your API_KEY.
Though, I am looking forward to the next generation of AI agents that aren't named after a lobster