The Kernel itself is often not the primary issue, but rather the EOL legacy NVIDIA dkms drivers no longer supported.
Most modern distro OS simply no longer support legacy 6.0.8 or 6.0.15 kernels needed to run the legacy drivers. A lot of laptops are headed for the landfill as e-waste in the next 3 years. =3
jauntywundrkind 3 hours ago [-]
Are we seeing Android phones upgrade their kernels yet? This Samsung S22 is still on 5.10. I thought that part of the idea for Android GKI was that phones would start getting kernel upgrades. But I'm not sure if that's actually happening.
I wish there was more pressure for this. Especially as Android Virtualization Framework starts really arriving & being useful, having a more modern kernel could be a very nice help, could offer neat new capabilities.
b112 2 hours ago [-]
Why would there be a need to upgrade the kernel? Security updates are often backported, so it can still be 5.10 but patched...
the_biot 2 hours ago [-]
It could be, but are vendors actually upgrading kernels along with firmware updates? In my experience it's more like, ship 5+ year old kernel and then forget it forever.
yjftsjthsd-h 34 minutes ago [-]
So long as they keep up with patches that can be fine, but newer kernels also have useful feature improvements. If nothing else, performance tends to improve over time.
rstat1 48 minutes ago [-]
Google did it with the Tensor-powered Pixels a while back, from w/e they shipped with to 6.1
yjftsjthsd-h 40 minutes ago [-]
Okay, but 6.1 is still from December 2022. Like... it's an improvement, but as my desktop sits at 6.19 and 7.0 is impending, I have to question why they lag so much.
almyfha 11 minutes ago [-]
OP was talking about that they now have and pursue the intention of upgrading the kernel during the lifetime of the device.
Instead of device launching with LTS kernel, which is supported for many years upstream, and always using it, instead LTS kernels are supported for 2 years (or extended like here), and the devices keep moving on to the next lts branch during their lifetime (usually not immediately, but after the regressions fixed for next branch, tested well before that in avf VMS etc)
Palomides 2 hours ago [-]
there's basically zero intersection between mainline linux version support timelines and android kernels as deployed on phones
brideoflinux 3 days ago [-]
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seanhunter 2 hours ago [-]
We neither need, nor benefit from this precis, which is longer than the headline but contains no additional information and insight. On hn people are encouraged to read tfa for themselves.
zahlman 1 hours ago [-]
If you have showdead on, that user's comment history is rather full of this sort of thing. Seemingly restarted half a year ago, but with similar conduct in the pre-LLM era as well.
kunley 2 hours ago [-]
Actually, as the article falls into that "ad begging" category and requires time-consuming disabling of tracking, I can understand why someone posts a summary.
yjftsjthsd-h 36 minutes ago [-]
I don't personally mind summaries (generally), but this isn't even a (useful) summary, it's effectively the same information as is in the title.
ThePowerOfFuet 2 hours ago [-]
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Most modern distro OS simply no longer support legacy 6.0.8 or 6.0.15 kernels needed to run the legacy drivers. A lot of laptops are headed for the landfill as e-waste in the next 3 years. =3
I wish there was more pressure for this. Especially as Android Virtualization Framework starts really arriving & being useful, having a more modern kernel could be a very nice help, could offer neat new capabilities.