Thanks for the suggestion! I'm considering adding more libraries to the comparison page (Datastar and Unpoly are on my radar).
That said, µJS and Datastar have quite different philosophies. µJS is a lightweight AJAX navigation library (~5 KB); it intercepts links and forms, swaps fragments, and stays out of your way. There's no client-side state: your server renders HTML, µJS delivers it.
Datastar is more of a reactive hypermedia framework. It brings client-side signals (reactive state in HTML attributes, à la Alpine.js) and uses SSE as its primary transport: the server pushes updates rather than the client fetching them. It's a different mental model: Datastar manages state and reactivity, while µJS is purely about navigation and content replacement.
Both are small, zero-build-step, and attribute-driven, so the comparison is definitely interesting. I'll look into adding it!
gaigalas 28 minutes ago [-]
I like the idea. DOM morphing is nice.
I've done this previously with morphdom to AJAXify a purely server-driven backoffice system in a company.
I would love something even smaller. No `mu-` attributes (just rely on `id`, `href`, `rel`, `rev` and standard HTML semantics).
Overall, I think old 2015-era microdata like RDFa and this approach would work very well. Instead of reinventing attributes, using a standard.
ranger_danger 58 minutes ago [-]
Does it automatically parse JSON responses from servers into objects? This is my one big gripe about htmx, even though the devs and other users keep telling me I shouldn't want that as a feature and that it "doesn't make sense".
Sorry if I need to use existing APIs I cannot change.
WesolyKubeczek 12 minutes ago [-]
I came to a conclusion that when you have an SPA with JSON-spitting backend where you cannot make the backend spit out chunks of HTML, htmx and similar libraries/frameworks are not suitable. They are suitable if you already have a multi-page application like we used to in 2006, or if you design it from the ground up.
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htmz is a minimalist HTML microframework for creating interactive and modular web user interfaces with the familiar simplicity of plain HTML.
i have added it to the htmx alternatives page:
https://htmx.org/essays/alternatives/#ujs
That said, µJS and Datastar have quite different philosophies. µJS is a lightweight AJAX navigation library (~5 KB); it intercepts links and forms, swaps fragments, and stays out of your way. There's no client-side state: your server renders HTML, µJS delivers it.
Datastar is more of a reactive hypermedia framework. It brings client-side signals (reactive state in HTML attributes, à la Alpine.js) and uses SSE as its primary transport: the server pushes updates rather than the client fetching them. It's a different mental model: Datastar manages state and reactivity, while µJS is purely about navigation and content replacement.
Both are small, zero-build-step, and attribute-driven, so the comparison is definitely interesting. I'll look into adding it!
I've done this previously with morphdom to AJAXify a purely server-driven backoffice system in a company.
I would love something even smaller. No `mu-` attributes (just rely on `id`, `href`, `rel`, `rev` and standard HTML semantics).
There's a nice `resource` attribute in RDFa which makes a lot of sense for these kinds of things: https://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-lite/#h-resource
Overall, I think old 2015-era microdata like RDFa and this approach would work very well. Instead of reinventing attributes, using a standard.
Sorry if I need to use existing APIs I cannot change.