My friend used to work at Logitech. Everyone in the trenches knows the software they pump out is trash, but the higher ups are somehow convinced that it “sets them apart”. I assume they think it sets them apart in a good way, but it’s quite the opposite.
stevenpetryk 52 minutes ago [-]
I'm always afraid of the day Logitech takes this away. Somebody should try to make an open source deploy of this too.
stanac 51 minutes ago [-]
It's probably the only program I despise, but need. I want to use small button under the wheel as middle click (I have short fingers), and until now, the only way to do it is/was to use logi options+. LO+ updater will get stuck on update every couple of months and while it's updating my button configuration doesn't work. Solution? kill process, uninstall, reinstall and hope it will not get stuck again any time soon.
I have to test Mauser.
While I am here, can anyone recommend good alternative mouse with both smooth/quick and precision scroll like logitech's? Back and forth buttons are also a must for me, horizontal scroll optional. Ideally a mouse would save configuration onto itself, so I don't have rely on garbage software like LO+.
flexagoon 3 hours ago [-]
For Linux users, there is Piper[1] based on their libratbag library[2], which supports the majority of mice
Is there anything like this for the MX Ergo? I would be very interested in any software-based “hacks” for the mouse.
gumby271 2 hours ago [-]
That's pretty cool, I've been wanting something like this so I don't have to reach for the touchpad on my Mac all the time. But I gotta say, I did NOT expect to be scrolling in the Z axis all of a sudden on that site!
lwhi 1 hours ago [-]
I tried this, and it's nice .. but it did let me programme all the buttons on my Logitech MX Vertical.
TyrunDemeg101 1 hours ago [-]
Holy crap, just tried this and I was skeptical, but it sold me within minutes. This truly is great!
dvdplm 3 hours ago [-]
Thank you. I’m constantly baffled by the terrible quality of Logitech’s software. Such great hardware and such horrible software. Very much needed an oss alternative.
Retr0id 3 hours ago [-]
I'm also baffled by the quality of their hardware, their mice are all coated in a type of rubber that turns to goop after a few years.
Gigachad 1 hours ago [-]
I wish products would just give up on these rubberised materials. They always turn to goop over time. Unless it’s a part designed to be easily user replaced, just stick to hard plastic.
Sindisil 2 hours ago [-]
Huh. Haven't experienced that myself, having used a Master MX for several years (now in use by my wife), a VX Revolution for a few years before that (now my son's backpack mouse), and a Master MX Vertical most recently. My son has gone through several other Logi mice as his primary mice, too, but they've died of either worn out switches or feet (he's an avid gamer).
Not trying to invalidate your experience -- I've see with my own eyes a similar thing happen with rubberized coatings on laptops & keyboard wrist rests (other's not my own).
Just putting it out there that it's by no means the universal experience.
Retr0id 1 hours ago [-]
I have wondered if my skin oils are somehow naturally more caustic than average.
Onavo 48 minutes ago [-]
I think they fixed it in their latest MX4, it's silicone (I think?) now instead of rubber.
Damn, I replaced my MX2 with an MX3 fairly recently...
SparkyMcUnicorn 2 hours ago [-]
I use the g305, and have to replace it roughly once a year because the scroll button eventually stops working. I've been through 5-6 of them. Regularly on sale for around $25.
Wish I could find a better mouse I like as much as this one that I didn't need to pay a yearly subscription for. It's just the right size, lightweight, wireless, and being able to store the customizations to on board memory is nice.
w0m 2 hours ago [-]
humans are naturally slimy. Anything you touch for 8h/day will be slimy in turn. Some of us are slimier than others.
kstrauser 3 hours ago [-]
Very cool, thanks!
In a similar vein, I've been using SteerMouse (https://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/) in the same way for many years, for the same reasons. Logi's hardware is nice, but their software just freaking sucks the electrons out of a battery. It's awful. I refuse to run their driver aka mini-OS just to do the right thing when I click a button with my thumb.
Groxx 2 hours ago [-]
I haven't had a Mac in about a year, but SteerMouse had been installed on all of them for well over a decade prior to that. Excellent software.
schnacki 1 hours ago [-]
BetterTouchTool has also recently added full Logitech support (keyboard & mouse) and it has been working great for me. (Fully replaces the Logitech Options+ and/or Ghub apps).
Especially the smooth scroll modifier available in BTT (not exclusive to Logitech mice) has helped me a lot, it transforms any mouses scroll events into trackpad like scrolling events that allow for e.g. page swipes, mail archive, scrolling in calendar etc. - things that usually only work with Magic Mouse or Apple Trackpads
kej 24 minutes ago [-]
An update to the Logitech software last year added a fast way to access some kind of Logitech AI, but made it so the combination of mouse and dongle I was using no longer worked together. It was kind of a parable for the whole industry lately.
touwer 3 hours ago [-]
LinearMouse on macos is also good. With Mos
sys_64738 52 minutes ago [-]
Love Linear Mouse.
bigjay517 2 hours ago [-]
I find that Logi Options+ mostly just stays hidden and works. It does use more RAM than I'd like (125.8MB right now). When it does break it's disruptive, or they add some feature I don't want.
- AI Prompting (enabled by default)
- Auto update stuck wasting CPU cycles
- The recent certificate issue
I'd like to find a replacement because I am annoyed by it, but I have not found a replacement that matches ALL of the features I use from Options+.
I keep the default settings in Options+ but in my testing I can't match all the same behavior with the 3rd party solutions:
- Pointer acceleration
- Workspace switching speed
- Smooth scrolling speed / acceleration
Scrolling is usually my main problem where scrolling in one direction jumps in the wrong direction first before correcting. This is most noticeable when scrolling line by line.
I've tested all the 3rd party options mentioned here(with the exception of Mouser). Does anyone else have these problems with the 3rd party alternatives?
jordwest 1 hours ago [-]
I’ve been using the offline version of Options+ that somebody recommended me a while back, it removes AI and auto updating and has done the job for me.
It’s kind of hidden on their website but you can grab it here:
That said I think this will be my last Logitech device. They’re just not very durable products and die too quickly
itopaloglu83 41 minutes ago [-]
I switched to the offline version right after Logitech forcefully and without my permission downloaded and installed bunch of crap software on my Mac. I was furious that a stupid mouse driver app has the right to install a random crapware. I’m still fuming about it when I remember it.
paularmstrong 51 minutes ago [-]
Thanks for pointing this out. I had no idea it existed. The other options in the comments just didn't quite work the way I would like.
- The main topic requires me to pull python dependencies, build, run manually on Mac
- All others can't reassign the button below the scroll wheel on the MX Master 3/4
crooked-v 56 minutes ago [-]
> It does use more RAM than I'd like (125.8MB right now).
For me it regularly ballooned to 1+ GB somehow, until I removed it entirely in favor of BetterMouse.
If you have to use Options that's probably the way to go (if none of the third party options work for you).
itopaloglu83 39 minutes ago [-]
If you run it through command line you get some additional features you can turn off or selectively turn on.
I’m still pissed beyond words that they used the driver software as an excuse and installed crapware on my Mac when they released the AI version.
rcarmo 2 hours ago [-]
This is pretty awesome - I have another Logitech mouse (the smaller, more pragmatic M720) and was looking for a way to ditch Logi Options+, which is insanely bloated for what it does. I suspect adapting this will take an hour or so with an LLM...
wolrah 2 hours ago [-]
Currently only for MX Master 3S, for anyone with other Options-controlled mice getting their hopes up.
Gigachad 2 hours ago [-]
I wonder if this or anything else can pair devices to the unifying receiver. That’s the only reason I ever use the Logitech app.
lwhi 1 hours ago [-]
I dumped my Logitech MX Vertical mouse because of that lousy software.
This seems like a great idea.
pants2 1 hours ago [-]
Nice! Is there a similar option for Logitech Webcams?
pprotas 2 hours ago [-]
Another alternative (apparently the Logi software is so bad that it spawned many of these): BetterMouse. It supports my MX Master 4 https://better-mouse.com/
joshu 2 hours ago [-]
how is it that logitech software is such awful trash
Razengan 2 hours ago [-]
Missed opportunity to call it Jerry
joemi 53 minutes ago [-]
Might still be worth it considering Mouser (the electronics supplier) is already a (pretty big) thing.
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If you only need to connect a device to the Bolt adapter you can use this web app by Logitech without having to install anything:
https://logiwebconnect.com/
I have to test Mauser.
While I am here, can anyone recommend good alternative mouse with both smooth/quick and precision scroll like logitech's? Back and forth buttons are also a must for me, horizontal scroll optional. Ideally a mouse would save configuration onto itself, so I don't have rely on garbage software like LO+.
[1]: https://github.com/libratbag/piper/
[2]: https://github.com/libratbag/libratbag
https://macmousefix.com/en/
Also available via brew:
And on Github too:https://github.com/noah-nuebling/mac-mouse-fix
Not trying to invalidate your experience -- I've see with my own eyes a similar thing happen with rubberized coatings on laptops & keyboard wrist rests (other's not my own).
Just putting it out there that it's by no means the universal experience.
https://www.reddit.com/r/logitech/comments/1nq2luo/got_the_m...
Wish I could find a better mouse I like as much as this one that I didn't need to pay a yearly subscription for. It's just the right size, lightweight, wireless, and being able to store the customizations to on board memory is nice.
In a similar vein, I've been using SteerMouse (https://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/) in the same way for many years, for the same reasons. Logi's hardware is nice, but their software just freaking sucks the electrons out of a battery. It's awful. I refuse to run their driver aka mini-OS just to do the right thing when I click a button with my thumb.
Especially the smooth scroll modifier available in BTT (not exclusive to Logitech mice) has helped me a lot, it transforms any mouses scroll events into trackpad like scrolling events that allow for e.g. page swipes, mail archive, scrolling in calendar etc. - things that usually only work with Magic Mouse or Apple Trackpads
- AI Prompting (enabled by default)
- Auto update stuck wasting CPU cycles
- The recent certificate issue
I'd like to find a replacement because I am annoyed by it, but I have not found a replacement that matches ALL of the features I use from Options+.
I keep the default settings in Options+ but in my testing I can't match all the same behavior with the 3rd party solutions:
- Pointer acceleration
- Workspace switching speed
- Smooth scrolling speed / acceleration
Scrolling is usually my main problem where scrolling in one direction jumps in the wrong direction first before correcting. This is most noticeable when scrolling line by line.
I've tested all the 3rd party options mentioned here(with the exception of Mouser). Does anyone else have these problems with the 3rd party alternatives?
It’s kind of hidden on their website but you can grab it here:
https://hub.sync.logitech.com/options/post/logi-options-offl...
That said I think this will be my last Logitech device. They’re just not very durable products and die too quickly
- The main topic requires me to pull python dependencies, build, run manually on Mac - All others can't reassign the button below the scroll wheel on the MX Master 3/4
For me it regularly ballooned to 1+ GB somehow, until I removed it entirely in favor of BetterMouse.
If you have to use Options that's probably the way to go (if none of the third party options work for you).
I’m still pissed beyond words that they used the driver software as an excuse and installed crapware on my Mac when they released the AI version.
This seems like a great idea.