this is especially problematic because now hackers have a comprehensive list of the most gullible people on the planet
helterskelter 28 minutes ago [-]
Every problem, looked at from the right perspective, is actually a solution.
cindyllm 23 minutes ago [-]
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starkeeper 1 hours ago [-]
Hey it's no biggie they are exempt from all rules, norms, and principals. Their customers love it even more when rules are broken so this is more like a bonus for them.
kibwen 18 minutes ago [-]
When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the PII.
blowscum 58 minutes ago [-]
> Their customers love it even more when rules are broken so this is more like a bonus for them.
You joke, but this is actually a pattern I see a lot. Is there a term for this sort of brain dead contrarianism? Ive noticed it for years, mostly among GenX where they will zealously defend any idea/action they heard thats against mainstream narrative.
It’s like a “stick it to the man teenager” stereotype but these people are fucking 50+ years old now.
notrealyme123 12 minutes ago [-]
Bonhoeffer's Theory of Stupidity hits the nail on the head here.
He argued that in WW2, the people who were not able to question what they were doing were enabling a lot of the cruelty [0].
I think this is an unfortunate consequence of the state of politics in the US (and in many other countries tbh).
Collectively we should really be getting angry with wealth inequality but those with wealth stir up any number of other issues (e.g. race, religion, gender, etc) in order to divert attention from them continuing to get richer at our collective expense.
bigyabai 3 minutes ago [-]
> Collectively we should really be getting angry with wealth inequality
But individually we're unable to abandon YouTube, iPhones and Windows 11. America's biggest B2C companies can do whatever they want and we'll all lap it up.
sublinear 10 minutes ago [-]
Those "distractions" would be brought up regardless of any wealth inequality. They're entirely unrelated.
Depending on who you ask, those same topics are considered distractions from any other topic including each other.
What you're really describing is the attention bottleneck in a western democratic society where everybody wants the world to see things their way. That's the wrong mindset for democracy to work. If you want people to believe something it's simple: don't be wrong. Don't be vague and don't be misleading. Stop assuming the opposing side is stupid. Just speak clearly.
We really should blame ourselves for coming to every discussion with trivially incorrect arguments. People are so lazy these days. Slacktivism and terrorism used to be the extremes reserved for the ignorant. We used to shame and mock those people.
Barrin92 40 minutes ago [-]
I think that's always been a feature of contrarianism itself. It's so much more difficult to be contrarian and correct than simply contrarian that it applies most of the time, especially if someone uses that label explicitly.
ramesh31 9 minutes ago [-]
Boomers get all the hate but GenX really is the absolute worst. They took the me-me-me of Boomers without the civic minded temperance of their G.I./Silent grandparents. Life goals of that generation include climbing mount everest, writing a novel, really anything that would make you sound "cool" at a cocktail party, but they never realized that nobody cares unless you've made the world a better place for others.
sublinear 27 minutes ago [-]
"Contrarianism" can't be the only qualifying term unless you mean to lump in the majority of HN commenters.
hypeatei 33 minutes ago [-]
> Is there a term for this sort of brain dead contrarianism?
Reactionary[0]? Trump and the MAGA movement embody this desire to return to the "golden age" which is an idealized period in the 1950s where you had a factory job, a house, a family, and a simple life. Of course, "idealized" is the keyword there because it ignores the state of civil rights, medicine, workplace & car safety, etc. at that point in time.
Anyway, I think that's the term you're looking for. Contrarians are annoying, reactionaries are more akin to cult followers.
I would not have believed you if you had told me they had the engineering and operations talent to prevent personal data leaks, among many other things.
Finnucane 47 minutes ago [-]
I would not have believed that they had 'engineering' or 'operations'.
infraredshift 41 minutes ago [-]
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twobitshifter 17 minutes ago [-]
Coffeezilla bought one of these thinking they’d never be delivered about a week before they announced they would be shipping soon. He wanted to do an exposé on the delays and thought Trump would never release the phone He will now end up with a crappy phone and his personal info exposed
"Trump Phones Are Finally Here—And People Aren’t Happy"
tzs 11 minutes ago [-]
From the CNET article:
> There is a headphone jack, but it's on the top of the phone.
They say that like it is a bad thing. I've always preferred the headset jack on the top because if I'm using the device while sitting and the jack is on the bottom it interferes with resting my phone holding hand the table if I'm at my desk or on my chest or leg if I'm the couch.
The main argument I've heard for jack on the bottom is that most people normally put their phone in their pocket with the top down, so if the jack is on top you have to flip it.
Google is telling me that jack on top was the norm in the early days of smartphones but gradually changed as the pocket argument won out.
Of course this wouldn't matter at all if more phones rotated the screens so that the display was upright even if the phone is upside down. Then everyone could have the headphone jack where they want.
Personally, I still use my BidenPhone, which was an upgrade from my 2009-era ObamaPhone brick. /s
nathanmills 39 minutes ago [-]
Was the /s needed?
kibwen 14 minutes ago [-]
You misunderestimate the gullibility of the average human. The \s is always needed (though the interrobang is also acceptable).
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motbus3 14 minutes ago [-]
My grandpa is almost 80 years old.
He blatantly complains about stuff he doesn't understand but because he was once a big shot he think he does. He takes decisions almost as random as a 20 side dice but the numbers are just options and have no correlation among each other.
Eventually he does something that seems to make sense, but if you live enough time with him you'll see that's by chance.
866-RON-0-FEZ 1 hours ago [-]
They must have hired the same developers as every other mobile operator.
morkalork 1 hours ago [-]
Or the same devs as GiveSendGo and every other right-wing gifting platform
Jeremy1026 46 minutes ago [-]
Gifting, or grifting?
Findecanor 28 minutes ago [-]
I'm surprised that the idea for the Trump Phone was even conceived.
I had thought that the drug king-pin Pablo Escobar pretty much owned the market for gold smartphones, and thus tainted it for anyone else.
kookster310 1 hours ago [-]
"Walker said Trump Mobile is evaluating whether it needs to notify customers of the exposure of their personal data."
It was confirmed home/payment addresses were leaked, how is that not worthy of notification?
Clent 1 hours ago [-]
There are regulatory rules on when disclosure must occur. They're saying they're not going to bother if it's not required.
lapetitejort 48 minutes ago [-]
Even if they are required, who will hold them accountable? The FCC?
866-RON-0-FEZ 1 hours ago [-]
There was a time when telcos would print this information in a big book and deliver it to your porch for free.
giancarlostoro 1 hours ago [-]
Hell, in some states you can find these details rather quickly since there's so much that is considered public record.
delecti 1 hours ago [-]
Because who's going to make them?
amazingamazing 1 hours ago [-]
Right up there with the rest or telco.
plagiarist 60 seconds ago [-]
The only surprise would be that it is not deliberate. Previously, the Trump White House deliberately exposed citizens' personal data. That's what customers should expect.
sizzzzlerz 24 minutes ago [-]
Oh, no! What an unexpected tragedy. In other news...
46493168 59 minutes ago [-]
The picture in the article features Trump holding an iPhone.
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dataflow 1 hours ago [-]
> The company said there was no breach of Trump Mobile’s network, systems, or infrastructure.
Wait... what?
"I didn't lose your money because somebody broke into my house -- I only lost it because I left it sitting on the sidewalk. My house is actually fine, don't worry!"
thefreeman 55 minutes ago [-]
Well trump mobile almost definitely doesn't have a network, systems, or infrastructure to begin with. So I guess they are technically correct.
ourmandave 58 minutes ago [-]
The spokesperson said that the exposure was linked to a third-party platform provider that supports “certain Trump Mobile operations.” Walker did not name the provider.
Assuming somebody left a database open or password exposed.
thefreeman 54 minutes ago [-]
My money is on unauthed mongodb or public s3 bucket
tencentshill 25 minutes ago [-]
What are those? Our intern Bradley types victim, sorry Customer information in an excel spreadsheet all day and then emails it to his manager, who he's never met.
etchalon 41 minutes ago [-]
I can think of no product with the Trump name that hasn't proven to be a catastrophic disappointment or scam.
shoxidizer 4 minutes ago [-]
The 1989 board game is supposedly an acceptable variation on Monopoly. I guess it's sales were a disappointment for the publisher, but not catastrophic.
SomeHacker44 39 minutes ago [-]
The only thing with trump I like is a hand of bridge.
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You joke, but this is actually a pattern I see a lot. Is there a term for this sort of brain dead contrarianism? Ive noticed it for years, mostly among GenX where they will zealously defend any idea/action they heard thats against mainstream narrative.
It’s like a “stick it to the man teenager” stereotype but these people are fucking 50+ years old now.
He argued that in WW2, the people who were not able to question what they were doing were enabling a lot of the cruelty [0].
[0] https://bigthink.com/thinking/bonhoeffers-theory-stupidity-e...
Collectively we should really be getting angry with wealth inequality but those with wealth stir up any number of other issues (e.g. race, religion, gender, etc) in order to divert attention from them continuing to get richer at our collective expense.
But individually we're unable to abandon YouTube, iPhones and Windows 11. America's biggest B2C companies can do whatever they want and we'll all lap it up.
Depending on who you ask, those same topics are considered distractions from any other topic including each other.
What you're really describing is the attention bottleneck in a western democratic society where everybody wants the world to see things their way. That's the wrong mindset for democracy to work. If you want people to believe something it's simple: don't be wrong. Don't be vague and don't be misleading. Stop assuming the opposing side is stupid. Just speak clearly.
We really should blame ourselves for coming to every discussion with trivially incorrect arguments. People are so lazy these days. Slacktivism and terrorism used to be the extremes reserved for the ignorant. We used to shame and mock those people.
Reactionary[0]? Trump and the MAGA movement embody this desire to return to the "golden age" which is an idealized period in the 1950s where you had a factory job, a house, a family, and a simple life. Of course, "idealized" is the keyword there because it ignores the state of civil rights, medicine, workplace & car safety, etc. at that point in time.
Anyway, I think that's the term you're looking for. Contrarians are annoying, reactionaries are more akin to cult followers.
0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary
Edit0: they seem to exist and they have a headphone jack? Incredible.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/gadgets/trump-mobile-phone-revi...
Title: Trump Mobile T1 phone test: device no longer ‘Made in the USA.’
Heading: We tested the Trump Mobile phone. It was 9 months late and no longer ‘Made in the USA.’
And then there's https://www.cnet.com/pictures/the-t1-trump-phone-is-the-same... (linked in the sibling comment at The Verge)
"Trump Phones Are Finally Here—And People Aren’t Happy"
> There is a headphone jack, but it's on the top of the phone.
They say that like it is a bad thing. I've always preferred the headset jack on the top because if I'm using the device while sitting and the jack is on the bottom it interferes with resting my phone holding hand the table if I'm at my desk or on my chest or leg if I'm the couch.
The main argument I've heard for jack on the bottom is that most people normally put their phone in their pocket with the top down, so if the jack is on top you have to flip it.
Google is telling me that jack on top was the norm in the early days of smartphones but gradually changed as the pocket argument won out.
Of course this wouldn't matter at all if more phones rotated the screens so that the display was upright even if the phone is upside down. Then everyone could have the headphone jack where they want.
Personally, I still use my BidenPhone, which was an upgrade from my 2009-era ObamaPhone brick. /s
It was confirmed home/payment addresses were leaked, how is that not worthy of notification?
Wait... what?
"I didn't lose your money because somebody broke into my house -- I only lost it because I left it sitting on the sidewalk. My house is actually fine, don't worry!"
Assuming somebody left a database open or password exposed.