My dad went to one when his cancer entered the terminal phase, I think he knew it was bullsh*t but it was a more human « treatment » than everything else he went through so he liked it. I still think it was a charlatan preying on him but I guess no more amoral than crystals moms and essential oils MLMs.
PaulHoule 2 minutes ago [-]
I don't get how anybody gets into essential oil MLMs. I have a $20 ultrasonic diffuser and buy $10 bottles of things like Lavender extract from my food co-op which will last me for years.
Lately I have been stirring the cauldron and getting to know quite a few witchy women and there are a lot of them who make their own essential oil products that are like the MLM products but don't have the upline and all it entails. Still I am like "just get a diffuser".
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spacington 2 hours ago [-]
Never forget:
For all the little bit of positive results for a placebo there are also negative effects due to noceboeffect.
Also it's very common in esoterica that if it works it was the healer if it didn't it was something you did wrong.
sanderjd 1 hours ago [-]
What is "noceboeffect"?
esperent 54 minutes ago [-]
In drug trials if a person knows about the side effects of a drug (e.g. nausea, headaches) they may get them even if they were in the control group.
I'm not sure how it applies here though because alternative therapies rarely state expected negative effects.
Sometimes called non-cebo/none-cebo though I avoid that as starting with “nonce” can be a trigger for the easily befuddled and offended (“Could you be experiencing a noncebo type effect?”, “WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?!”).
As the wikipedia page points out, this is not to be confused with knowcebo, which sounds the same. This is where information leaks break blinding measures and render test results less (or completely not) meaningful.
brazzy 54 minutes ago [-]
Just like something that has no direct physical/chemical/biological mechanism to improve your condition can still do so if you believe it will (the placebo effect), it can also worsen your condition if you believe it will - that's the nocebo effect.
danw1979 3 hours ago [-]
> Questions inundate my mind: was it real?
No.
> Did Mme Abgrall cure the warts?
No, that was your daughter’s immune system.
ErroneousBosh 3 hours ago [-]
Gaffa tape works wonders, especially on verrucas.
Genuinely. It's like magic.
MisterTea 2 hours ago [-]
I assume you meant Gaffer tape?
ljf 5 minutes ago [-]
It is used interchangeably here in the UK - most tradespeople or theatre folk say is as gaffa, as in boss.
selimthegrim 46 minutes ago [-]
I was in France for a wedding recently and I saw traiteur on the side of one of the vans pulled up. I remarked to the staff that in Louisiana French, traiteur/traiteuse means folk healer, and they told me it was just the caterers.
mmmattt 26 minutes ago [-]
Traiteur does mean caterer in France, but the way the word is constructed also implies “someone who treats”, to treat is traiter and traitement is treatment, so it’s weird that only traiteur lost that meaning.
brohee 2 hours ago [-]
Since data is now the plural of anecdote... Frenchman here. Someone I knew fell from his bike without appropriate gear and ended up in the burn ward. His wife was very into the fire tamer thing and sent him a few practitioners...
He took the morphine.
On another note, I had respect for Aeon as a publication, and now I got a lot less.
philipallstar 2 hours ago [-]
Praise the Sun \o/
busssard 3 hours ago [-]
apparently my granddad was afiretamer, but he dies before i got to know him
teekert 2 hours ago [-]
It's well known that realtors get better deals on their houses, doesn't seem to go like that for fire tamers it would seem.
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Lately I have been stirring the cauldron and getting to know quite a few witchy women and there are a lot of them who make their own essential oil products that are like the MLM products but don't have the upline and all it entails. Still I am like "just get a diffuser".
For all the little bit of positive results for a placebo there are also negative effects due to noceboeffect.
Also it's very common in esoterica that if it works it was the healer if it didn't it was something you did wrong.
I'm not sure how it applies here though because alternative therapies rarely state expected negative effects.
Sometimes called non-cebo/none-cebo though I avoid that as starting with “nonce” can be a trigger for the easily befuddled and offended (“Could you be experiencing a noncebo type effect?”, “WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?!”).
As the wikipedia page points out, this is not to be confused with knowcebo, which sounds the same. This is where information leaks break blinding measures and render test results less (or completely not) meaningful.
No.
> Did Mme Abgrall cure the warts?
No, that was your daughter’s immune system.
Genuinely. It's like magic.
He took the morphine.
On another note, I had respect for Aeon as a publication, and now I got a lot less.