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What is Bending Spoons? The little-known AOL and Vimeo owner that's now public (techcrunch.com)
cs702 42 minutes ago [-]
Bending Spoons is a company that acquires SaaS companies/products that are not growing or losing users but have a well-known brand and customers who stick around.

The execs at Bending Spoon buy these SaaS services on the cheap, cut costs, jack up prices, and milk remaining users for as much cash as possible for as long as possible.

Rinse and repeat. The goal is to generate the highest possible rate of return on invested capital in a law-abiding manner.

dehrmann 8 minutes ago [-]
Consolidating stagnant or dying SaaS offerings makes sense, but it'd be nice if there were a version of this that's a better steward of the companies.
Scoundreller 17 minutes ago [-]
I had a vendor acquired by one of these outfits.

I looked through their assets and it clicked: “this is where software goes to die”

ulfw 15 minutes ago [-]
That's a short term business model if I have ever seen one.

"customers who stick around." is anthesis to mid- to long-term customer loyalty when you do "jack up prices, and milk remaining users for as much cash as possible"

cs702 12 minutes ago [-]
Think of it as a perpetual bond with declining coupon payments.

Customer "inertia" or "lock-in" might be better terms to describe what the company is looking for in an acquisition.

Their ideal customer may well be someone who's forgotten they have a subscription on credit card auto-pay.

dehrmann 7 minutes ago [-]
> a perpetual bond with declining coupon payments

Most things with royalties (oil fields, songs) work like this.

cs702 3 minutes ago [-]
Yes, agree.
ethagnawl 52 minutes ago [-]
Whatever they are, they let Evernote devolve into a buggy pile of crap -- especially on Android. I migrated to Joplin, stopped paying for my obscenely expensive plan ($$$ per year) and haven't looked back.
GGO 23 minutes ago [-]
That's exactly their business plan. So seems like they are executing on it very well.
jabiko 6 minutes ago [-]
I'm a bit salty due to what they've done to the Komoot team. Komoot was (and still is) a great app for planing your outdoor activities.

After acquiring Komoot, they fired everybody. Watching their goodbye video is a bit heartbreaking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLJkK4Wn1HI

achandra03 1 hours ago [-]
Is it not just a private equity fund masquerading as a tech firm?
jodacola 47 minutes ago [-]
Bingo.

My wife brought them to my attention recently because she heard about them from Scott Galloway, who was speaking highly of Bending Spoons on one of his podcasts. As she was explaining this to me, I said "It's just PE."

They must be doing some good PR/marketing, because, for some reason, "PE" isn't the first thing entering a lot of minds about Bending Spoons right now.

alephnerd 22 seconds ago [-]
BendingSpoon isn't PE because they are not attempting a restructure to then exit out of the asset.
biophysboy 19 minutes ago [-]
Isn't it just a different form of private capital designed for the later stage of a tech company? I'm not saying its good, but I am not remotely surprised by tech's transition from growth/disruption/hiring to cost-cutting/M&A.
sbarre 24 minutes ago [-]
Isn't a PE firm going public just an admission of failure, and an attempt to make their private investors whole on the public market's back?
PatronBernard 55 minutes ago [-]
It is. They are also enshittifying Komoot and EventBrite. Also by default they acquire a company and fire all staff within the week. Fuck Bending Spoons.
chrisvenum 48 minutes ago [-]
Pre-bending spoons Komoot was a beautiful app and community. You could operate it one handed with your brightness turned all the way down and easily get the info you needed. Now when I pull it up mid ride to route home I have to click through multiple upgrade to premium pop ups with tiny exit crosses. All good things etc etc
raverbashing 34 minutes ago [-]
And here's the thing, what should have the original company done if they were not having profits/growing (but shrinking)?

You don't sell a company if you don't believe its future can be better with you in command (most of the time)

notahacker 12 minutes ago [-]
Founders decide they want to do other things with their lives all the time, and in the case of komoot reportedly exited at a €300m valuation for a company that had raised very little VC money, which is going to tempt most people no matter how much they hate popups...
49 minutes ago [-]
jlarocco 52 minutes ago [-]
I wish they'd buy Spotify...

Keep one SRE to keep the servers running, one guy to do security updates to the app, and the team that acquires rights to music.

jack1689 4 days ago [-]
I was reading a bit about their story, it feels like they managed to succeed by turning overly funded (and by then devalued) software products and restructuring them for long term profitability as they are not bounded to the classic 10 year time horizon of private funds. Wondering if we will see more plays like this as alternatives to traditional private equity and as fallback option for VC backed companies that bursted.
tecleandor 57 minutes ago [-]
From the acquisitions I've followed, what they do is firing 80% of the staff the next week after the acquisition, raise prices, and put the app in maintenance mode. I don't know if they've done something more sensible elsewhere, but they mostly do wealth extraction.
sbarre 26 minutes ago [-]
While I agree that their specific approach sucks, I do wish more companies would declare products as "done" and stop messing with the UI and changing features every quarter, and just go into a long-term stability mode.
alanwreath 7 minutes ago [-]
That’s Valve (somewhat) and Blizzard (but to the nth degree) in a nutshell.

That said, tangentially, I do wish game companies would let games live on.

AdmiralAsshat 15 minutes ago [-]
Remarkably on-brand, named after the signature trick of a well-known charlatan.
ChrisArchitect 4 days ago [-]
Related:

Italy's Bending Spoons, owner of AOL and Vimeo, files for Nasdaq IPO

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446310

Weird Italian loveletter about the IPO:

Bending Spoons just went public: Italy won the World Cup

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48773549

Some history from only the past year in discussions:

Bending Spoons acquires Vimeo for $1.38B

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45197302

AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45749161

Bending Spoons Acquires Eventbrite

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46124673

Tell HN: Bending Spoons laid off almost everybody at Vimeo yesterday

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46707699

xacky 3 minutes ago [-]
AOL Time Warner was the peak of the original dot com bubble.
stenodeevee 29 minutes ago [-]
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