My understanding (perhaps outdated) is that manufacturing variability is a key challenge for analog computing. Digital designs are also fundamentally analogue under the hood, but if you only need to resolve a 0 or 1 you are much more tolerant of any source of noise. I wouldn't mind hearing even a little bit more from Mythic about how they make this work in practice.
A 2026 EE Times article [1] refers to "compensation" and "calibration" techniques.
I'd assume it does some type of calibrate per device (regularly?) or the design is such that it's differential so things cancel out.
Note it's also on 28nm for the analogue bits because yes it's harder.
I wish they would have done what Taalas did with chatjimmy.ai and just directly host a model for us to view, rather than just claiming it’s 50x faster than Nvidia/groq. Their claim is specifically for a 1 trillion param model. So they could have just grabbed GLM 5.2, or similar, and hosted it.
vatsachak 20 minutes ago [-]
If they can't demonstrate it publicly it's probably fake.
mdp2021 26 minutes ago [-]
> Mythic M1 stores up to 80 million neural network weight parameters directly on-chip
Which means connecting over 30 chiplets to run a Qwen 3.8 27b and over 3000 chiplets to run Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B. Cost? Space? Feasibility?
tancop 53 minutes ago [-]
Their numbers look too good to be true, they have no identified customers and the whole site is generated, but I think the principle behind it is good. If they can pull off the error correction needed to make analog reliable we might have a great new option for cheaper more eco friendly AI. Then again it could turn out to be a total scam.
mdp2021 14 minutes ago [-]
> Their numbers look too good to be true
Why? I have not seen anything outlandish for a NN implementation (vs a NN simulation).
> can pull off the error correction
There lie the issues that have not been mentioned, the solutions not explained. Analog computing means: * costly digital-to-analog at the input and analog-to-digital at the output; * sensitivity to environmental conditions such as temperature; * signal dispersion hence the need to boost it in the path.
Maybe checking the patents they registered?
vatsachak 15 minutes ago [-]
Like the numbers they claim could literally make LLMs 20x profitable. If it were true then why isn't every AI company trying to buy them out?
Bottom of page linked from HN (currently https://www.mythic.ai/) indicates they're hoping to demonstrate something that could that in 2028 or later, and both Nvidia and Cerebra are looking at 10x'ing models to 10T+ plus in 2027.
So they may never catch up on LLMs.
They're a good fit for the companies they're working with and have taken investment from, ex. Toyota, that aren't doing LLMs.
refulgentis 9 minutes ago [-]
My 15 second read of just the front page aligned with you, but when I saw replies pushing back, I went back and loaded News, then cross-verified some of the claims. It's real.
alex7o 1 hours ago [-]
This looks cool a chiplet can fit 30m params so the biggest card can fit qwen 3.8 27b it would be cool to see some benchmarks on things like that publically.
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A 2026 EE Times article [1] refers to "compensation" and "calibration" techniques.
[1] https://www.eetimes.com/mythic-rises-from-the-ashes-with-125...
I wish they would have done what Taalas did with chatjimmy.ai and just directly host a model for us to view, rather than just claiming it’s 50x faster than Nvidia/groq. Their claim is specifically for a 1 trillion param model. So they could have just grabbed GLM 5.2, or similar, and hosted it.
Which means connecting over 30 chiplets to run a Qwen 3.8 27b and over 3000 chiplets to run Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B. Cost? Space? Feasibility?
Why? I have not seen anything outlandish for a NN implementation (vs a NN simulation).
> can pull off the error correction
There lie the issues that have not been mentioned, the solutions not explained. Analog computing means: * costly digital-to-analog at the input and analog-to-digital at the output; * sensitivity to environmental conditions such as temperature; * signal dispersion hence the need to boost it in the path.
Maybe checking the patents they registered?
Bottom of page linked from HN (currently https://www.mythic.ai/) indicates they're hoping to demonstrate something that could that in 2028 or later, and both Nvidia and Cerebra are looking at 10x'ing models to 10T+ plus in 2027.
So they may never catch up on LLMs.
They're a good fit for the companies they're working with and have taken investment from, ex. Toyota, that aren't doing LLMs.