Hopefully defensive democracy finally shows its teeth and they come through with the long-overdue ban of this fascist party.
andai 22 minutes ago [-]
Democracy is when the government does what I want!
ceejayoz 2 minutes ago [-]
Sometimes, cultures democratically decide "hey we shouldn't be responsible for another World War and Holocaust" is worth legislating.
Sometimes, democracy needs defending from people using its privileges to get rid of it.
vrganj 8 minutes ago [-]
I'd recommend reading up on German constitutional theory and consider the historical precedent that might've lead them to realize the importance of having their democracy be defensive - something they're failing to live up to right now.
I'd say the majority doesn't want AfD, otherwise they would have voted for them. So let's not claim what is not due.
firmretention 11 minutes ago [-]
Good point. We should abolish any party that can't win an election.
vrganj 7 minutes ago [-]
Their electoral performance is irrelevant to their legality under Art 9 GG.
bsoqk 7 minutes ago [-]
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s_dev 32 minutes ago [-]
For me the most striking thing about this was before the Brexit referendum there was rhetoric about how the UK would form a CANZUK alliance with free movement of people and goods between these countries, forming a sort of English speaking EU.
Even if Canada and Australia don't join the EU as full members which is unlikely anyway (deeper ties are definitely on the table though), these sort of announcements should put to bed these complete and utter fantasies the UK has about leading some alternative world order where it's in charge and can go toe to toe with the EU.
Even many British would agree that Brexit was full of absolute lies, and even to this day you still see them being repeated in certain circles. These weren't even possibilities.
smackeyacky 28 minutes ago [-]
It is a total fantasy that Australia would throw back in with the ghost empire that is the UK. They literally have nothing to offer us apart from a figurehead head of state.
andai 23 minutes ago [-]
It is strange to me that as an Australian I don't have the right to live in the UK, but if I showed up as a random person from a different country, I would be welcomed.
ceejayoz 13 minutes ago [-]
You have the same right to apply for asylum.
"as an Australian" claims of escaping persecution and violence might be slightly harder to sustain. That's a good thing for Australia.
afavour 6 minutes ago [-]
You'd both have the same rights.
I suspect you know this, which is why you pivoted from "right to live" to "would be welcomed", which are pretty clearly not the same thing.
BobbyTables2 10 minutes ago [-]
As a non-Australian, I’d say your country’s own immigration policy is fairly unwelcoming.
I get no country wants to accept a wave of 80 year olds that will be a burden to its social welfare systems.
But I find it strange one would automatically deny seasoned working professionals in excellent health with knowledge, experience, and finances to offer — just because they were born before the premier of Good Morning Australia in 1981.
smackeyacky 13 minutes ago [-]
West Indian migration put an end to that[0]. Unintended side effect of good old British racism.
Australian here. Theres no way we’re joining the EU. Brussels is on the other side of the planet from Australia. Our major trading partners are nearby countries, like China, Japan, NZ, and the US. Not continental Europe. Europe is too far away.
ta20240528 5 minutes ago [-]
"Even if Canada and Australia don't join the EU as full members"
The European project is bigger than the EU - that's just the central core.
There's also the EFTA, EEA, CEFTA, CU, Eurozone, Shengen, CoE, and Swiss-style bilateral treaties.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/sep/08/neo-n...
Sometimes, democracy needs defending from people using its privileges to get rid of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_democracy
Even if Canada and Australia don't join the EU as full members which is unlikely anyway (deeper ties are definitely on the table though), these sort of announcements should put to bed these complete and utter fantasies the UK has about leading some alternative world order where it's in charge and can go toe to toe with the EU.
https://boris-johnson.com/2013/08/25/the-aussies-are-just-li...
https://www.ippr.org/articles/could-the-idea-of-the-anglosph...
Even many British would agree that Brexit was full of absolute lies, and even to this day you still see them being repeated in certain circles. These weren't even possibilities.
"as an Australian" claims of escaping persecution and violence might be slightly harder to sustain. That's a good thing for Australia.
I suspect you know this, which is why you pivoted from "right to live" to "would be welcomed", which are pretty clearly not the same thing.
I get no country wants to accept a wave of 80 year olds that will be a burden to its social welfare systems.
But I find it strange one would automatically deny seasoned working professionals in excellent health with knowledge, experience, and finances to offer — just because they were born before the premier of Good Morning Australia in 1981.
[0] https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/the-...
The European project is bigger than the EU - that's just the central core.
There's also the EFTA, EEA, CEFTA, CU, Eurozone, Shengen, CoE, and Swiss-style bilateral treaties.
See https://thisbugslife.com/2021/05/10/graphic-representation-o...
Canada can easily find a home one of these.