curl: (60) SSL certificate OpenSSL verify result: unable to get local issuer certificate (20)
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This is news for NIST but old news generally speaking, being the eMudhra debacle. Or am I missing something?
ale42 2 hours ago [-]
It's the Go version of it, I think.
colinmarc 2 hours ago [-]
Go is not vulnerable in the same way software using webpki is, because it generally uses the system trust store. However, this change is about golang proactively blocking the certs, so that even if your OS doesn't update, it still won't trust them.
But the Go version is as well old news, actually it was one of the first stories about eMudhra appearing on the HN homepage yesterday.
asqueella 3 hours ago [-]
This seems to be about ‘go’ proactively blocking emudhra certs even though the system trust store is out of date? https://pkg.go.dev/vuln/GO-2026-6809
philipwhiuk 2 hours ago [-]
"proactively" doing some work.
The problem is Golang has it's own trust store. So you don't benefit from OS patching.
sspiff 2 hours ago [-]
That's not the case, Go uses the system store with an additional revoke/deny list in crypto/x509 because it allows updating a deployed application on an out of date or slow moving platform or OS.
This CVE is literally just "versions of the Go deny list don't contain the eMuhdra revokation yet". Older versions of Go will still deny certs signed through the compromised certificate if the system store already has the update.
It's an or situation, not and.
vanschelven 44 minutes ago [-]
Python users may need to take their own separate steps, see this discussion:
This is such a clusterfuck. I use so many containers in my home lab and various local installations and stuff. Honestly, I have no idea what I'm even supposed to do at this point because I'm not a full time developer.
ransom1538 11 minutes ago [-]
"Hey claude this is the cve I need you to fix [link]"
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tesnorindian 17 minutes ago [-]
uv should be your friend.
1gargoyle 21 minutes ago [-]
Welcome to corporate
zkmon 3 hours ago [-]
Great. The technology has progressed enough to kill the existing technologies. It's like the fish in a pool creating a shark that eats away all the fish while the fish proudly announce that their great creation (shark) as the frontier progress for their fish race.
cedilla 3 hours ago [-]
Here a CA derived a secret key from the number 4.
If you think "that's weird to see such a small number in key generation" than you're one step ahead of whoever generated that key.
Unfortunately, unlike with RSA, small primes are not apparent in elliptic cryptography.
jkahrs595 1 hours ago [-]
> Here a CA derived a secret key from the number 4
The eMudhra CA compromises had nothing to do with LLMs? But I love the vibes.
prodigycorp 2 hours ago [-]
Agents have dramatically increased the ability to poke at every single surface out there. I would be surprised if the researcher who found this wasn't assisted by a llm.
renhanxue 32 minutes ago [-]
The researcher in question has publicly stated[0] that he wanted to try Google's paranoid_crypto tool[1], so he ran it on some roots as a quick proof-of-concept, and the first thing that happened was that it detected these intermediates. He also states he's been running a lot of certificate linters so this was just the next logical step I guess.
A lot of software is going to be forced to update or retire soon, all unpatched software should be retired off the internet immediately because AI agents are in waiting.
chrisco255 18 minutes ago [-]
The death of security by obscurity
alt227 2 hours ago [-]
Im guessing this only affects Go? But I am guessing that from the nist page as none of the headlines mention it at all.
grey-area 2 hours ago [-]
No it affects everybody, but most browsers/OSs etc have updated already. This is just a workaround Go put in case the underlying OS has not been updated. Not sure why this link is on the front page as it duplicates previous posts and confuses people, I think it should be merged.
In other words, that software bundled the compromised certs into the binary, so upgrading it is the only way to remove them.
This is about Go proactively blocking intermediates. Which shouldn't strictly be necessary as long as your OS has removed or distrusted the CAs (on my laptop, macOS has done that, although it seems like it did so in a way not all tools have access to; for example, rustls-platform-verifier respects it, but rustls-webpki still loads the bad CAs from the system trust store).
edit: forgot I can't use code blocks on HN
t_mahmood 3 hours ago [-]
> edit: forgot I can't use code blocks on HN
You can, two space at the start of each line
fabioborellini 3 hours ago [-]
I wonder if they made this change with an assumption that the root CAs wouldn't be distrusted later same day, too.
speedgoose 3 hours ago [-]
Cock-up or conspiracy?
dspillett 1 hours ago [-]
Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.
charlieyu1 22 minutes ago [-]
I have seen way more malice pretending to be just stupid than the actual stupidity
fr2029r 2 hours ago [-]
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thedreammachine 54 minutes ago [-]
At this point, extrapolating from the speed of AI progress we're seeing, can we expect to see 10x as many reports like this in a single day before the end of the year?
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* GLSA 202610-01: https://security.gentoo.org/glsa/202610-01
* https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/
https://github.com/golang/go/issues/82345
The problem is Golang has it's own trust store. So you don't benefit from OS patching.
This CVE is literally just "versions of the Go deny list don't contain the eMuhdra revokation yet". Older versions of Go will still deny certs signed through the compromised certificate if the system store already has the update.
It's an or situation, not and.
https://discuss.python.org/t/information-for-python-users-re...
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If you think "that's weird to see such a small number in key generation" than you're one step ahead of whoever generated that key.
Unfortunately, unlike with RSA, small primes are not apparent in elliptic cryptography.
https://xkcd.com/221/
[0]: https://groups.google.com/a/mozilla.org/g/dev-security-polic...
[1]: https://github.com/google/paranoid_crypto
What a weird comparison...
Here is the original story: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50166579
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50166579
The very urgent uv/certifi/etc releases (and yet-to-be-done bun release) are about removing the compromised CAs as described here:
https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/
In other words, that software bundled the compromised certs into the binary, so upgrading it is the only way to remove them.
This is about Go proactively blocking intermediates. Which shouldn't strictly be necessary as long as your OS has removed or distrusted the CAs (on my laptop, macOS has done that, although it seems like it did so in a way not all tools have access to; for example, rustls-platform-verifier respects it, but rustls-webpki still loads the bad CAs from the system trust store).
edit: forgot I can't use code blocks on HN