Yes, why do we have undercover domestic spies and enforcers? Is that something we want? Vote!
mitxela 33 minutes ago [-]
We did vote, we voted for this and got what we voted for.
2OEH8eoCRo0 29 minutes ago [-]
That's definitely why Trump is -27 net approval.
shipman05 21 minutes ago [-]
That's just buyers remorse. He told us how he intended to govern. His opponent told us how he intended to govern. The voters were not mislead.
(and his approval would be the same mid 40s it always was if gas prices were reasonable)
fnordpiglet 10 minutes ago [-]
He’s never achieved a majority vote in any election, FWIW. His claim of a mandate was just as brazen as all the other litany of lies - he’s a lame duck lame duck. The true shame is on the congressional republicans for letting him sully them so deeply and follow him in his self immolation of the entire government and America in the world. The rebuilding will be a major test of the successor, and it’ll be fascinating to see if the Goldwater republicans can become the party of reason again rather than this reality TV idiocracy.
fnordpiglet 16 minutes ago [-]
And won via a plurality after losing the popular vote in the last election. The least popular president in history can’t win a majority of popular vote. It’s not shocking he’s deeply unpopular, he never was popular. He’s a won twice on a technicality of the republic created to ensure the rural states wouldn’t be dominated by Virginia in the original establishment of the union.
He’s a pariah everywhere on earth, most especially at home. The sad part is the democrats couldn’t mount a successful campaign against someone so unfit to lead. Now there’s nothing left to do but clean up the mess and undo the terrible harm he has caused and repair what can be once he’s finally out of our hair.
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JumpCrisscross 19 minutes ago [-]
It’s not. It’s because he took inflation to the Moon. If he hadn’t had Hegseth at his side, and hadn’t gone into Iran, he’d probably still be treading water.
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_AzMoo 27 minutes ago [-]
Eligible voter turnout in 2024 was <50% for 18-24 year olds, and <65% for 25-44 year olds in the US.
deadbunny 23 minutes ago [-]
Unless 100% of people vote it doesnt count as voting?
asanineassasin 11 minutes ago [-]
Any idea is worth entertaining, to avoid the realization the purity spiraling ideology is just as reviled by 90 % of the people as is racism.
_DeadFred_ 10 minutes ago [-]
Because people in safe demographics (non minority, no care about reproductive rights) love to broadcast 'both sides are the same'.
23 minutes ago [-]
xvxvx 1 hours ago [-]
In a note with the files, the hackers wrote, “They have our information, so it's only fair that we have theirs.”
I mean, they’re not wrong…
dools 24 minutes ago [-]
Sucked in
ck2 1 hours ago [-]
Not sure how I feel about this but I am sure about one thing
There should never ever be a masked police force in this country, it's disgusting
Think about all the things we've written off in the past two years and faded from the news
Like military helicopters landing on a city building and them blowing the doors off all the apartments dragging everyone from their apartments
And all bets are off for the next two years, looks like Dems will get the Senate but even then they can't stop the scorched-earth that is coming
drop_star 58 minutes ago [-]
Remember when these people had issues wearing masks (Covid). Now all of a sudden its not a problem.
pixelatedindex 47 minutes ago [-]
It feels more like a reverse psyop, like “look we are wearing masks now, isn’t this what you wanted”?
As long as the sides keep reducing common ground, the farther away from government for the people, by the people we go.
bediger4000 44 minutes ago [-]
Again, let's think of two children fighting over their shares of a cookie. Child A says he should get all of the cookie. Child B says that wouldn't be fair, the cookie should be split evenly, half and half.
The adult in the room decides to promote common ground, and gives 75% of the cookie to A and 25% to B.
denkmoon 10 minutes ago [-]
who exactly is the adult in the room supposed to be in this analogy? There _is_ no adult in the room, just the two children.
ck2 53 minutes ago [-]
I am not so sure people started saying "this is fine"
more like he started 1000 other fires, several each week if not a new one each day to make far worse problems
It's not just the most corrupt administration, it's the most chaos and definitely by design
btw all investigations dropped for the execution of two citizens, I mean that's definitely not fine with anyone, just way too many other problems going on now at the same time
well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days
ryandrake 49 minutes ago [-]
> well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days
This assumes The Other Side will do anything if they do get into power. My prediction: A milquetoast moderate leads the (D)'s and declares: "In the interest of unity and moving forward, we will not go after anyone in the previous administration. Let us all hold hands and get past this with minimal drama... They have pinkey promised they will never behave this way again when they get to power, and we believe them."
toomuchtodo 36 minutes ago [-]
It's wrong when they feel like it infringes on them, it's okay when it empowers and emboldens them to cause harm to others without repercussions.
sheepscreek 18 minutes ago [-]
Anytime I see one I can’t shake off the feeling I got when I first saw Watchmen. I thought “this is so dystopian and bizarre; so out there”. Didn’t have this in my bingo card for the decade.
havnagiggle 54 minutes ago [-]
The Senate can hold people in contempt with a 50% vote. So they could do something to reign in the fascists starting January, but I'm not holding my breath. And that's still a long road.
jfengel 40 minutes ago [-]
That opens a can of worms that you're never going to close.
Maybe this is such an emergency that it's worth the risk. But the risk is extremely high; if you do it to them, even with the best of reasons, they are going to do it back to you for any reason they can think of.
anon84873628 29 minutes ago [-]
Hence why it is important to be thorough.
Plus they will do it anyway. There is no shame or honor regulating their behavior.
Accountability is what was missed last time and is the only way forward.
46 minutes ago [-]
ck2 46 minutes ago [-]
Senate has no mechanism to prosecute contempt charges
That goes to the DOJ, which of course means nothing happens, at least for next 800 days
taylorfinley 20 minutes ago [-]
It's my understanding they can detain under the inherent contempt power, it's been reported [0] that the House has a jail that can be readied if needed.
Many will say that they wouldn’t need to protect their safety and privacy if they werent doing something wrong.
But in terms of if its ever appropriate for law enforcement to wear masks, isnt the question if its ever possible to threaten a law enforcement officers safety who isnt doing something wrong?
The FEDs wear masks in cartel operations all the time and that seems fine.
matt3210 1 hours ago [-]
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slowin 1 hours ago [-]
Why would this be tragic? The public absolutely has a right to know who these people are. No one is forcing them to join these organizations.
elonsmusk 47 minutes ago [-]
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pixelatedindex 43 minutes ago [-]
> antifa supporters on HN
Come again? If you have umbrage against antifa, surely you’re pro fascist?
> Most Americans remember how we couldn't even question COVID, DEI or kneeling for blacks and support law enforcement efforts
What do they even have anything to do with each other, except for them being right-wing talking points?
36 minutes ago [-]
bix6 1 hours ago [-]
> obtained from a group calling itself the Department of Peace.
phs318u 1 hours ago [-]
The data is said to have been “vetted and cleaned up” and the front end is designed to navigate the hierarchy.
The leak was via a compromised Okta SSO login (why anyone still uses them is a complete mystery to me).
Per dang in many previous comments, it's not a dupe. Multiple submissions of the same topic are fine, it's only (maybe) a dupe when a discussion starts or it's actually the same submission. You linked to a submission with 0 comments submitted a whopping 15 minutes earlier. This one is the one that got traction, neither is a dupe. If someone submits it again, now that there is a discussion, or submits the same Wired article, then those would be dupes.
paaloeye 8 minutes ago [-]
wired vs something I've personally never heard before
article vs a few paragraphs + image
Not really.
nvr219 24 minutes ago [-]
Maybe really.
Rendered at 22:25:57 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) with Vercel.
(and his approval would be the same mid 40s it always was if gas prices were reasonable)
He’s a pariah everywhere on earth, most especially at home. The sad part is the democrats couldn’t mount a successful campaign against someone so unfit to lead. Now there’s nothing left to do but clean up the mess and undo the terrible harm he has caused and repair what can be once he’s finally out of our hair.
I mean, they’re not wrong…
There should never ever be a masked police force in this country, it's disgusting
Think about all the things we've written off in the past two years and faded from the news
Like military helicopters landing on a city building and them blowing the doors off all the apartments dragging everyone from their apartments
And all bets are off for the next two years, looks like Dems will get the Senate but even then they can't stop the scorched-earth that is coming
As long as the sides keep reducing common ground, the farther away from government for the people, by the people we go.
The adult in the room decides to promote common ground, and gives 75% of the cookie to A and 25% to B.
more like he started 1000 other fires, several each week if not a new one each day to make far worse problems
It's not just the most corrupt administration, it's the most chaos and definitely by design
btw all investigations dropped for the execution of two citizens, I mean that's definitely not fine with anyone, just way too many other problems going on now at the same time
well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days
This assumes The Other Side will do anything if they do get into power. My prediction: A milquetoast moderate leads the (D)'s and declares: "In the interest of unity and moving forward, we will not go after anyone in the previous administration. Let us all hold hands and get past this with minimal drama... They have pinkey promised they will never behave this way again when they get to power, and we believe them."
Maybe this is such an emergency that it's worth the risk. But the risk is extremely high; if you do it to them, even with the best of reasons, they are going to do it back to you for any reason they can think of.
Plus they will do it anyway. There is no shame or honor regulating their behavior.
Accountability is what was missed last time and is the only way forward.
That goes to the DOJ, which of course means nothing happens, at least for next 800 days
[0] https://rollcall.com/2019/05/08/just-where-is-this-secret-ho...
But in terms of if its ever appropriate for law enforcement to wear masks, isnt the question if its ever possible to threaten a law enforcement officers safety who isnt doing something wrong?
The FEDs wear masks in cartel operations all the time and that seems fine.
Come again? If you have umbrage against antifa, surely you’re pro fascist?
> Most Americans remember how we couldn't even question COVID, DEI or kneeling for blacks and support law enforcement efforts
What do they even have anything to do with each other, except for them being right-wing talking points?
The leak was via a compromised Okta SSO login (why anyone still uses them is a complete mystery to me).
The Techdirt article also links to the searchable front end to the dump.
https://icepi.cx/
Not really.